I think the world needs another Patton... someone who would just up and slap someone....

I heard on NPR today that disciplinary action was being taken. I'm not a soldier, so I won't deign to tell any soldier how to do his/her job. But when my boss tells me to do something I don't want to do, I do it anyway. I know that's not the same as being in the military. But we here in civilian life don't hear about the thousands of soldiers who do their jobs every day. Yet we hear about this group who refused. I think there's something wrong here.

Hmm my post may be a little ambiguous, but basically I said this:

If they are trained to be in dangerous areas, they cannot protest based on how dangerous the mission is. But what makes it worse is that their mission weren't that dangerous anyway.

Fuck these fucking fuckers!

Good, but too subtle for how I feel. Where's a political commissar with a pistol when you need one? Shoot the ringleaders, and the rest will fall in line. Besides, didn't you say (at work) that the people that actually did the mission for these losers took no fire, and suffered no casualties?

"Come home with your shield, or on it."
-mother of a soldier, ancient sparta-

If they had been in an infantry squad in a combat situation, and had refused to advance while others did it would be "In the Heat" and worthy of worse than a fucking.

we're not hearing a lot over here about this thing, at least not through official channels, I heard about it today reading the Yahoo news. You're right, though, Pseudo. There needs to be long lasting and very public repercussions for this. I don't know all the details, but around here, "it's too dangerous" describes just about anything, and it is never an excuse for refusing a mission.

I don't know all the details, but around here, "it's too dangerous" describes just about anything, and it is never an excuse for refusing a mission.

Exactamundo.  If it was so dangerous, how come none of the relief convoy got hurt? 

 

Good to see a post from you, from forward, especially about this incident. Thanks for chiming in, and keep your head down, Wanderer.

As a former reservist (SCARNG) who trained right beside the 24th INF ( '80-'86 )I am so ashamed of these gutless, selfish, poor excuses for human waste, that the proper vulgarity to call them cannot come to mind.
My recollection of the military utililization of reserves is that of "round out", during Desert Storm my old unit ( 1/263rd Armor ) was a FAD 3 attached to the 24th Inf Div. they were sent to the NTC and mothballed by politicians, never deployed.
They're were upset, dissapointed, and overall inraged at not being trusted to proform their mission.
That is the spirit of the reserves that I remember, not whinning, cowards refusing to do their sworn duty.

One of our soldiers wound up over in Kuwait working as a mechanic... and odd assignment for a Korean linguist, but he did his job. He said that the Reserve and National Guard units that he had contact with (he wound up issuing them spare parts to fix their trucks) were actually head-and-shoulders above the unit that he was assigned to, and a few other Active units as well.
While I'm certain there may be whole units of malingering fucks in the Reserves, I have some faith that the majority of them are patriotic individuals who want to do their job (and then go home). Cheers to those folks.

I think the world needs another Patton... someone who would just up and slap someone....

Hell Yeah!! WTF were these fucks thinking? Castration would be too good, just tie them up and leave them for the insurgents, how dangerous would that be? Stupid fucks, Grey, break out the clown phallus!

Good post, pseudo!